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The UL Letters:  Chicago 3

Chicago 4:  Misleading Marketing?

Chicago 5:  ‘Operation Save-A-Life’

Chicago 6:  The Terri Stewart Story

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The UL Mark
on over 21 billion products in 2008

UL Inc’s Headquarters
Chicago, Illinois, USA

After an hour of discussion . . .

Adrian Butler
Chairman, The World
Fire Safety Foundation

A Conversation With UL’s Consumer Affairs Manager: Mr John Drengenberg

January, 2008

Twenty six months after UL had failed to respond to the third letter (see above), The World Fire Safety

Foundation’s chairman, Adrian Butler, spoke to UL’s Consumer Affairs Manager, Mr John Drengenberg.

The following is an accurate representation of the conversation regarding UL’s alleged Scientific

Misconduct (i.e. fraudulent standards testing) of ionization smoke alarms:

John Drengenberg
UL Consumer
Affairs Manager

John, the bottom line with UL217 (America’s smoke alarm standard) is that you can’t possibly fix it.

Adrian, I can assure you UL will always act in the best interests of the public and
we are working towards changing the standard.

UL has been saying they’re going to fix UL217 since 1978!  The existing testing of
ionization smoke alarms is an indictment on UL.  The problem is UL can’t develop a legitimate test, because if they did ionization alarms will fail and some of the manufacturer could be put out of business and possibly sue UL.
UL always acts in the best interests of consumers, not the manufacturers.
Many people and organisations
don’t agree with that!






- The essence of the problem always come back to the Standards.  Alleged ‘Scientific Misconduct’ (i.e. fraudulent testing) allows
   ionization smoke alarms to be certified as safe   by UL and
other Standards organisations globally.  In 1999 UL’s Chief Legal
   Officer and Senior Vice President, Ms Debra Rade declared UL had
set the entire foundation for  product-safety certification
“if we don’t anticipate everything, if there’s a misuse of our product we never thought of, we change our standard.”

- Did Ms Rade’s statement implicate UL in the flawed standard’s testing of ionization smoke alarms globally?

- As at July 2010, despite claims of changing the standard “if we don’t anticipate everything”, UL has failed to correct it flawed
  UL217 Smoke Alarm Standard

More About American (Underwriter’s Laboratories) Alleged ‘Scientific Misconduct’,  Here > > >

More About Australian (Standard’s Australia) Alleged ‘Scientific Misconduct’,  Here > > >

UL217 - America’s flawed Smoke Alarm Standard

All World Fire Safety Foundation films are produced by MC2E Productions.
MC2E’s documentary, ‘Stop The Children Burning’, was inspired by the Washington
Post’s award-winning exposé, ‘How Safe are Products Bearing the UL Mark?’.

The Washington Post article exposed Underwriters Laboratories (UL) flawed smoke alarm standard, UL217  UL is the worlds largest independent standards testing organisation.

In October 2005, MC2E wrote to UL:

MC2E Request 1:

UL Response 1:

MC2E Request 2:

UL Response 2:

MC2E Request 3:

UL Response 3:

UL claimed it would correct its flawed smoke alarm standard
in 1999.  Why has UL failed to correct it’s standard?

What steps has UL taken to rectify it’s flawed standard?

States UL’s VP and CEO treating matter with the “utmost seriousness”.

Restates question and re-requests UL to please answer it.

Responds but still fails to answer the question.

Restates question FOR THE THIRD TIME

No Response

The UL Letters - Summary

The UL Letters

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